Looking to trade for pair 416-8A

[martyh45]

I am hoping to do it relatively local, Milwaukee/ Chicago/ Fox Valley. I have pairs of 416-8b, 802-8d, 805B, 811B, 511B, n-500-c, 32B plus assorted singles of horns, crossovers, drivers and woofers. Please let me know if you are interested.
Thanks,
Marty

[martyh45]

Hi,
No, they are not the same, the 8B has a totally different magnet structure with correspondingly different TS parameters. gamallot is right though, there are some A and Z versions with 16? frames but I have not seen many. The 8A version is the one to use with the Hiraga onken enclosure and the 8B is the woofer for M19 clones.

[intotubes]

Aren't 416-8A's essentially the same as 416-8B's?
That is the information I gleaned either from this site or audioheritage.org. For my M19 clones I was going to use my 416-8A's. I would trade but I'm a little too far away for a road trip.

[gamalot]

I think the 416-8A in the 15" frame are designed to be mounted from the rear of the baffle and the back edge of the basket has strength ribs which make it tuff to front mount. The 416-8B in the 16" frame can be mounted from the front or rear.
There are alot of 416 models out there and it is also possible they made the 8A model in a 16" frame for the dual mounting capeability.

[Jim Butler]

HI Marty,
I have a pair of 416-8A's in 16 inch frames that Bill at GPA reconed a couple of years ago. They're in fantastic shape and I've barely played them. I'm looking for a pair of 416-8B's for my Model 19's.
I know I'm not in WI but if you're up for shipping perhaps we could trade.
Regards,
Jim

[gamalot]

After everyone here is happy and has what they need or want, I would love to hear opinions or facts.
What is the difference between a 416-8A in large frame (16") and a 416-8B other then the magnet housing?
Don't both use the identicle cone and coil?

Gary